KDE logout options with F8

[Christopher Aillon]

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matthias Clasen <mclasen <at> redhat.com> writes:
>> Sure, here you go: a display manager is a security sensitive piece of
>> code. Shipping multiple just because their names start with a letter you
>> don't like is not a smart move, because you end up doing twice the
>> security errata. 
> 
> Please don't make up excuses to fight the desires of the KDE SIG. The fact is:
> * The KDE spin already defaults to KDM. This is not a mistake, but an 
> intentional decision.
> * As far as I know, the KDE SIG members who expressed an opinion on this issue 
> all want KDM as the default for KDE on the DVD too.
> * I'm definitely one of these.
> * Rex Dieter, who started that whole KDE SIG, wants that, too. See the October 
> 9 meeting log: http://repo.calcforge.org/temp/fedora-kde-sig-2007-10-09.txt
> 
> Now how to implement this technically is another issue (I don't see what's the 
> big problem with having XDM in Base X and GDM/KDM in the respective desktop 
> environment groups, but there's surely other solutions too!), but saying KDM is 
> not desirable at all is something we don't agree to.

We should get to the point where we have one login manager, and just 
swap out the toolkits/UI.  Logging in is something that we seriously 
should not have multiple packages for.

See the work that William Jon Mcann is doing upstream right now to help 
get to the goal of a more generic login manager.  However, because we 
aren't aiming to be bug for bug compatible with KDM (we're not even 
aiming to be bug for bug compat with GDM), the KDM upstream guys are not 
interested in participating.  Maybe instead of fighting within Fedora, 
we can redirect the discussion to convince the KDM guys that this is a 
good idea.