My 2 cents on the whole Fedora to succeed as global wide deployed desktop are...

Jeremy Katz katzj at
Tue Sep 4 14:45:46 UTC 2007

On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 15:18 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
> Yes, most ARE, but the one with services could be useful. There is a
> batch of services that are useful on most of notebooks, but are unneeded
> on most of Desktops/Servers and vice versa. And we'd like to get rid of
> as much unneeded services as possible, so if we target the default ones
> with a thought of the target platform, it would be IMHO more effective.
> Maybe it could go to anaconda, but personally I think that first boot is
> better place for that.

Actually, the bigger problem is the concept that everything has to be a
"system service run from an initscript".  To pick a specific case -- the
fact that bluetooth daemons get started by an initscript as a service is
really not what you want at this point.  You instead want them being
started based on the existence of the hardware probably as a hal

The same can really be said for most of the things which start by
default currently which are maybe not needed in some cases. 

Services are for _servers_.  And having to enable them (via
system-config-services or chkconfig or ...) to use them makes sense
because that's hardly going to be the only configuration you need to do
for them.


[1] Bluetooth specifically is tracked with and the more general
tracker bug is

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