History Lesson (was Re: Python 3.0)

David G. Mackay mackay_d at bellsouth.net
Wed Sep 5 00:10:45 UTC 2007

On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 17:35 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:01:36 -0500
> "David G. Mackay" <mackay_d at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > No.  I was thinking specifically of FC1.  Since all of the succeeding
> > Fedora releases build on each other, they are all, in that sense
> > derived from RHEL and RH9.  Of course, you could claim that
> > everything for FC1 was conjured into existence independently, which
> > would give a whole new meaning to "installation wizard".
> >
> You have it wrong still.  FC1 was literally RHL10 until the project
> name changed.  It was not built on top of anything RHEL, it was built
> on top of RHL9.  This thread has turned into a history lesson, and
> that's too bad, because we're no where near the original point of this
> topic.

OK.  I suppose things like gfs, which did migrate from RHEL to the kernel, 
and thus to Fedora are extremely rare.  And yes, we've degenerated into discussing

> > > Fedora doesn't have to be everything to every person.  It doesn't
> > > have to solve all the problems.  There are perfectly viable
> > > alternatives to Fedora, that are even based on Fedora, that solve
> > > some problem spaces that Fedora itself just isn't interested in.
> > > Duplication of effort is not fun for anybody.  
> > 
> > Oh, I don't know.  Take a look at xen and kvm.  Those of us that
> > aren't down in the trenches for those stand to win either way.
> Not the same duplication I was talking about, but oh well.  You do
> bring up an interesting topic in Xen, in that what we have in Fedora
> for Xen is a very sad case of dragging something forward.  xensource
> has no interest in tracking upstream kernel unlike Fedora, so we have
> to continually forward port their release to newer kernels.  Not Fun.
> I wouldn't expect it to last for too many more releases (just my
> opinion, nothing of authority here).

May the best hypervisor win.


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