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[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 30.04.2008 13:41, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 22:07 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
 > [...]
>> Which is pointing out one very big sore point in Fedora after the merge between 
>> core and extras, very little people seem to have been appointed sponsor, 
>> certainly something where IMHO FESco is dropping the ball.
> I realize that it's much easier to criticize a small body of people vs.
> the whole Fedora community, but this is hardly FESCo's fault.

Sorry to disagree, but it IMHO is completely FESCo's fault.

>  We have a
> standing item in the meeting to discuss and vote on sponsors.  We
> literally have not received any nominations in quite a while.

Here is the difference between  "I have a open ear for your problems; 
just come and tell me about it" vs. "I'm looking after you all the time 
and think I noticed you have some problems; should we try to solve them 
together" again I mentioned in a mail to this list yesterday.

In the Extras days (at least those when I run the meetings) we 
*actively* looked out for new sponsors all the time:

  * we each meeting asked for new sponsor nominations (self-nominations 
or nominations from other people) and thus everyone had to think about 
it for a moment

  * in the agenda we send out to the list there was the point "sponsor 
(self-)nominations" quite often (not often enough) -- that way everyone 
on the list got a reminder that they can nominate/self-nominate

  * new sponsor-nominations were not a FESCO-only thing; we tried to 
integrate the existing sponsors into the discussions and decisions, as 
they are in the best position for it (¹)

FESCO doesn't do any of the above properly these days IMHO. Especially 
the first two points are IMHO important and made sure people always got 
reminded that they could self-nominate or nominate other people. Most of 
the time in fact in were no self-nomination -- often people got 
nominated by existing sponsors.

CU
knurd

(¹) -- that could have worked a lot better, but it worked