i586 kernels [Was: very common kernel modules slow down the boot process]

[Mike Cronenworth]

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Subject: Re: i586 kernels [Was: very common kernel modules slow down 
the	boot process]
From: Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com>
To: Development discussions related to Fedora <fedora-devel-list at redhat.com>
Date: 04/08/2008 02:07 PM

> Mike Cronenworth wrote:
>>
>>> ... if I were interested in running a "multimedia desktop" (which I
>>> presume is the direction certain folks are trying to drive Fedora into),
>>> I'd probably use Vista or buy a Mac.
>>>
>>
>> Going further OT here.
>>
>> So you wish to say Linux isn't "multimedia competent?" 
> 
> It isn't 'Linux' that is the relevant issue. It is more that Microsoft 
> and Apple aggregate all of the patented and copyrighted materials that 
> are typically needed for multimedia operations and roll the cost into 
> the total for the OS and apps.   Linux distributors typically don't, and 
> in the GPL world there really isn't a business model that can 
> accommodate the concept of fairly sharing the expenses of something that 
> isn't free but could be very cheap in a mass-market distribution.

Not everything patented and copyrighted is "absolute" in the multimedia 
world. Just look around and you'll find plenty of the tools you'll want 
to use under Windows originated under Linux - legal or not.

> 
>  > Tell that to any
>> number of Hollywood movie studios that use Linux to produce their movies.
> 
> Or ask them what it cost them in terms of customization to do what they 
> want and decide if you'd rather have something that did everything you 
> want out of the box.

Windows does everything out of the box? Since when?

The same money "spent" on customizing a Linux software piece is also 
spent on Windows licenses and licenses for the software that runs under 
Windows -- compare the two prices as the Hollywood editors did and 
you'll find that the Linux switch was very much financially sound. By 
comparing you'll see it's not that cheap under OS X or Windows to 
license a few hundred computers for rendering.

> 
>> P.S. Replace Linux with Fedora where appropriate. Fedora is flexible 
>> enough that you could strip out Gnome (I do) and other components to 
>> get down to an RPM install with a kernel and whatever else may please 
>> you. You can thank all the people on this list (inc. Red Hat) for that.
> 
> The mechanics aren't quite the point.  How do you get licensed/legal 
> versions of all the components at bulk pricing rates?  Is there even 
> such a thing for DVD playing on linux where software patents and the 
> DMCA are observed?
> 

Yes. A quick Google search would have told you so.

http://www.dvd-recordable.org/Article1087-mode=thread-order0-threshold0.phtml
http://www.cyberlink.com/eng/press_room/view_970.html

And there's more... but this isn't the time.