Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10
Toshio Kuratomi
a.badger at gmail.com
Thu Apr 24 04:49:27 UTC 2008
max bianco wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Thomas M Steenholdt <tmus at tmus.dk> wrote:
>> Hans de Goede wrote:
>>
>>> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
>>>
>>>> I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for normal users
>>>> (as well as root) for F10? There are plenty of useful tools in there for
>>>> non-root users (ifconfig, fdisk, parted), and IMHO, any tool which
>>>> assumes the user is root because it lives in /sbin is fundamentally
>>>> broken. The LSB doesn't mandate this (at least, not anywhere I can see),
>>>> so I propose that we just do it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone opposed to such an action?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not at all,
>>>
>>> +1000000
>>>
>>> I've been consistenly changing /etc/profile todo exactly this since the
>> day I started using RH 4.0
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>> Isn't that more or less the same reason most windows users login as
>> administrator - The convenience?
>>
>> Note: I know the security risk in the two examples are not in the same
>> ball-park, so there's no need to lecture me on that.
>>
>> I'm merely speaking of convenience and how it sometimes makes it feel right
>> to do the wrong thing.
>>
> Speaking as probably one of the most inexperienced Fedora users
> subscribing to this list. I whole-heartedly agree with this sentiment.
> Its already been said but I will say it again anyway. Those that know
> how to add things to their $PATH will do just that and not be
> inconvenienced.
Actually, this is not true. I added it to my PATH for years since
starting on RHL-4. But at some point in using Fedora, I stopped because
I gave up on the hassle of adding a custom PATH to /etc/profile.d/
every time I installed a new box. Additionally, I now have more shell
accounts on boxes that I only drop into once in a while when something's
wrong that I've learned to accept the constant annoyance of not having
.*/sbin in my PATH.
> If you don't know how to find ifconfig and add it to
> your $PATH then you probably would just shoot yourself in the foot
> with it, if you don't know but are motivated you can certainly find
> this info easily enough. Our time on this earth is limited but its
> not that limited.
Actually, it is. Every day, lose six minutes from having to retype a
sudo line due to not having a PATH configured with sbin. Most likely
when you're already stressed that something is broken and you just want
to find out what as quickly as possible.
-Toshio
-Toshio
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