autotools hurts my brain; it's a monster out of control

[Ralf Corsepius]

On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 00:28 -0500, Peter Jones wrote:
> Responding to the correct mailing list for this discussion.  Cc:ing the other one.
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> Ulrich Drepper wrote:
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> > John Dennis wrote:
> >> I've had my fill of autotool problems (especially libtool)
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> > Don't throw in libtool with the rest.  libtool was available in the
> > spirit of the auto tools only in its very first version (which of those
> > reading this only Jim and Tom will know).

Right, ... and libtool-2 is a completely different beast once again. 

Future will tell if it improves or worsens the situation. 
It definitely cleans up part of the mess older libtools suffered from.

> I agree that a Linux-only replacement for libtool should be used, if at all.  So 
> why isn't there one available in Fedora that deps on "libtool" will pick by default?

Such a tool would widely contradict libtools purposes (portability). 

I.e. such a tool will only help "linux-only packages" and package for
which portability to other OS is of minor interest (such as glibc).

Ralf