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Re: leaving fedora

> Patrice Dumas wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I am leaving fedora (though not EPEL)
> Thanks for all the good work you've done the past years, it was always a
> pleasure to work with you, so thank you and good bye.
> Below I'll respond to one point of your farewell mail, this is in no way
> meant
> to convince you to come back, the purpose of my remarks is to discuss
> possibilities for those who remain behind to hopefully do better at your
> use
> cases :)
>> My use case is old non desktop stuff, fluxbox, xdm, vim, xterms,
>> mutt, irssi, firefox, latex/texinfo, xfig, xpdf, numerical models,
>> openoffice (because I have to). Fedora is unsuitable for me as a user
>> since quite a long time, too much regressions, lack of interest for
>> integrating what I use (xdm, no vfs daemon...)
> As someone who is now a day maintaining xfig and ImageMagick (not listed
> but
> sort of fits in the list), let me chime in here. I think the biggest issue
> with
> quite a lot of these, is that they are maintained by @redhat.com people
> (yes
> I'm @redhat.com now too). The problem is that most of these packages as
> part of
> former Fedora Core, got these maintainers because someone had to do it,
> not
> because they care a whole lot about the package. Those maintainers have
> more
> packages to maintain / other work to do and given that these packages do
> not
> have a lot of users, any issues with them will get low priority if any at
> all.
> So what can we do to make this better? Simple become a co-maintainer and
> fix
> any issues yourself. That is how I did things with xfig and ImageMagick
> when I
> got fed up with ping-ing in bugzilla (officially I'm still a co-maintainer
> of
> both, but in practice I seem to be the maintainer).
> So I hereby call on everyone who care about these older tools: if it
> itches
> scratch. I know that many of you have probably submitted bugs with
> patches.
> That is not going to work when a package maintainer is overworked. The
> solution
> in my experience is to become a co-maintainer and do any fixes yourself.
> ###
> Talking about Patrice leaving and packages of older software, this leaves
> (amongst others) lesstif orphaned. As I've co-maintained it for a while
> and I
> believe that offering the possibility to run old (FREE) motif apps is
> important, I will pick it up (call me crazy). But I could really use some
> help
> here, upstream lesstif is dead and it could really use some loving. So any
> volunteers?

You're crazy. :) I've applied to co-maintain, I need liesstif for ddd.

> Regards,
> Hans
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