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Re: Updates to F8 (was: [Fedora Update] [stable] fakeroot-1.11-19.fc8)

On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 15:46 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote:
> As others wrote, the comment part would be either bloated with miriads
> of uninteresting bug fixes, or a trivial one like "updated to latest
> upstream release".

A link to where you can find the upstream release notes would actually
help here.

> There isn't anything significant standing out, yet some dependent
> projects would like an upgrade. Mentioning this in the update notes
> could flesh it out, but would be uninteresting to the non-consumers of
> these projects. Anyway I'll try to make a better comment next time.
> >
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/MaintainerResponsibility#Maintain_stability_for_users
> Some projects are still based on F8, and of course we will drop
> support for it, but until its EOL F8 is supposed to be well supported,
> and F8 consumers are begging to push out fixes before it goes EOL -
> obviously they do intend to remain longer on F8, something we don't
> actively encourage, but if people are asking for this shortly before
> Xmas I'm too soft to say nay. ;)

Having lots of user requests for the update is reasonable, and could
also be mentioned in the notes.  I just want to avoid people doing every
update on every branch whenever they can, even without user demand.

> Otherwise we should consider an offcial two phase support scheme where
> functionality/enhancements/minor bugs are phased out earlier than the
> final EOL. That way packagers would have a target line of what makes
> sense to backpackage and when to not. Currently everyone draws this
> line arbitrary from the release of the next Fedora release to the
> actual EOL date.

I support the general idea of this, a loose guideline, letting
maintainers make their own judgment.

> E.g. it boils down to different interpretations of what people
> consider a live/supported release, and what that support means in
> what proximity of the EOL date.
> BTW having said all that there is indeed very high demand to keep F8
> running longer than the usual Fedora release. Just noting and passing
> on the observation.

Thanks for that.  One thing you didn't address though, why is this going
directly to stable?

Jesse Keating
Fedora -- FreedomĀ² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

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