et tu, wvdial Re: RFE: Remove isdn4k-utils from base installs
Lamont Peterson
lamont at lamontpeterson.org
Mon Feb 25 02:35:28 UTC 2008
On Friday 22 February 2008 01:50:14 pm Callum Lerwick wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 13:15 -0500, R P Herrold wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Dave Jones wrote:
> > > I wonder where all the vocal germans are, in opposition to
> > > this change. :)
> > >
> > > Seriously, I wonder how much this is still true. A few
> > > years ago, sure, but now, aparently even some of the more
> > > rural parts of Germany have ADSL.
> >
> > in for a dime, in for a dollar --the same RFE arguments for
> > trimming out dialup PPP support (wvdial) exist; while dialup
> > PPP still exists, it is a dying breed in Fedora's target
> > audience
>
> Honestly, how much space would be saved by cutting out ISDN? PPP? Unless
> it's a saving on order of hundreds of megs, it's a drop in the bucket.
> Its much more important to have things "just work" for the maximum
> number of users.
Alright, look. I don't know how to say this any plainer. I *am not* asking
to have ISDN support removed. I am asking to not have it in the base,
minimal, installs. When I think of a minimal install, 1GB of stuff that
includes dozens of packages like ISDN is not what I'm thinking about.
I don't have any servers in data centers that need ISDN support. If I ever
do, I know how to install the package. If someone doesn't, they can find it
in the dial-up support and install that.
How many servers do you have that need dial-up? Would anyone in Europe care
to comment on this question? Do you have any servers that need dial-up
support installed as part of a minimal install?
--
Lamont Peterson <lamont at lamontpeterson.org
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