How much personal information is necessary to close a bug?

Toshio Kuratomi a.badger at gmail.com
Wed Jan 30 21:24:22 UTC 2008


Lex Hider wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 10:51 +0000, Christopher Brown wrote:
>> On 30/01/2008, Lex Hider <floss at lex.hider.name> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I was wanting to do some bug triage for fedora.
>>> I checked out the list of NEW bugs for one of my favourite apps: amarok.
>>> There seemed a pretty obvious bug that could now be closed:
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=248625
>>>
>>> I tried to close it and found I didn't have the privileges to do so.
>>> I asked on #fedora-devel and was pointed to the triage team wiki page
>>> and that I need a Fedora Account.
>>>
>>> Apparently to open a Fedora account I need to give my postal address and
>>> telephone number. Why is it necessary to give this personal information
>>> just to close a bug?
>>>
>>> Contrast to other projects I have contributed to where some realizes you
>>> know what you are doing or get sick of you pestering to close bugs on
>>> your behalf and give you the relevant privileges.
>>>
>>> Here's an example of my bug closing credentials:
>>> Look at Bug Killers:
>>> http://www.commit-digest.org/issues/2006-04-30/
>> Hello Lex,
>>
>> Great that you're wanting to do some triage work and yeah, that bug is
>> the kind of stuff that we don't need hanging around any longer. :)
>>
>> As for the information side of things, FAS is used for a number of
>> things, including the ability to create packages in Fedora and there
>> has to, at some point, be some accountability for how this happens.
>> With bugzilla triage privs you get the ability to modify to great
>> extent the bugs in Red Hat's main bug tracking system so I think its
>> understandable for this to be asked. Someone with legal knowledge
>> might want to add to this though.
>>
>> Best place to hang out for triaging is #fedora-qa on IRC and the two
>> bods leading the charge are John Poelstra and Jon Stanley.
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnPoelstra
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JonStanley
>>
>> We have a meeting today at 1700 UTC in #fedora-meeting - would be good
>> to have you there as well.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> -- 
>> Christopher Brown
> 
> I think that meeting is around 4am local time, so I may have to give it
> a miss. Perhaps you could put on the agenda how high the barrier for
> entry is. Not only do I have to create a separate Fedora account aside
> form the bugzilla that I have, I have to give out my personal details,
> and then I have to learn enough about gpg to make a key to sign up for
> the account.
> 
> If I have to jump through all the above hoops just to close trivial
> bugs, I'm not sure if I'll bother.
> 
> I can see no reason why anyone would need my address and phone number.
> What is stopping anyone from putting in fake ones.
> 
> I was tempted just to enter address as something like:
> 27 Gumdrop House
> Lolly Pop Lane.
> (http://thinkexist.com/quotation/owww-look-at-me-marge-i-m-making-people-happy-i-m/748180.html)
> 
> 
> Surely entering the phone number and address details is useless without
> verification anyway.
>

I believe that we're removing the necessity for having an address and 
phone number in FAS2 (although having an alternate form of contact is 
definitely a good thing for many of the things people do in Fedora). 
GPG signing of the CLA is a legal requirement of becoming a 
"contributor".  Whether a bug triager must be a "contributor" in this 
sense is up to Jon Stanley and John Poelstra to decide at this point as 
they're running the new triaging effort.

-Toshio

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