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Re: Another selinux rant

Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 01:36 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Jan 5, 2008 12:33 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 freenet de> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 12:07 -0500, John Dennis wrote:
Ed Swierk wrote:
People who already know about SELinux can of course just learn to type
ls -l --lcontext, but showing the extra information by default would
at least give clueless users like me a hint that files have these
extra attributes that might somehow be relevant to those strange
openvpn failures. IMHO this would be the single best usability
improvement to SELinux
Re SELinux usability issues:

We wrote the setroubleshoot package precisely to help SELinux novice
users so they wouldn't suffer with hidden obscure failures of the type
which have frustrated you. If it had been installed you would have
received notifications in real time on your desktop describing the
failure and suggestions on how to fix it.
Well, honorable goal, but does it actually achieve this goal?

* On one machine (FC8/x86_64), for me, all setroubleshoot does is to die
shortly after bootup and first-time login (I haven't tried to
investigate, but as it seems to me some serelated daemon is
You don't possibly think that this is the regular behaviour of
setroubleshoot on which you cna judge it?
No, I am pretty certain it's an setroubleshoot and/or its infrastructure

And have you done with this bug what I'm sure we all know we are supposed to do with bugs we find? :P


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