Init : someone could comment this ?

Casey Dahlin cjdahlin at
Mon Jan 7 03:45:16 UTC 2008

Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008 5:36 AM, Enrico Scholz
> <enrico.scholz at> wrote:
>> An initsystem which requires depbloat like python or perl is completely
>> unacceptably.
> Bash is not depbloat, but bash + awk + grep + any other userspace
> tools shows alot of dep bloat.  Since python is installed on most
> machines, and almost always putting at least some code in shared
> memory space, asking for Python in particular is not unreasonable.  If
> Casey had mentioned Common Lisp, I would argue the same thing.
> Since depbloat should be a non-issue in this case, I think we really
> need to measure how many kbytes are read on startup, and how long it
> takes vs how long running python would take and how many kbytes that
> brings in.  Of course a hybrid system would take twice as long, so
> it's a rather time consuming experiment just to shave a few seconds.
> -Yaakov
What about busybox? What if we ran all the init scripts under busybox? 
Its a shell-type environment, its world-famous for being incredibly 
tiny, it could meet everything.

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