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Re: Linux is not about choice [was Re: Fedora too cutting edge?]

On 10/01/2008, David Zeuthen <david fubar dk> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 01:57 +0100, Patrice Dumas wrote:
> > My personal understanding of fedora was that a package was accepted as
> > long as it was free software, usable in fedora, and decently integrated.
> > Isn't it still the case?
> Sure, live free or die etc. But you cannot expect maintainers of core
> packages to simply bend over just because you think it's l33t to e.g.
> have a non Linux kernel. Moreover, I'm pretty sure, by just reading your
> mails, that you don't realize what using a non Linux kernel even
> entails.
> > In fact there are already guidelines and FESCo rulings that in my opinion
> > went in that direction (precisely, and if I recall well, the fnord and
> > another package of Enrico that were linked statically against uclibc,
> > and even he demonstrated that there was a performance gain and no
> > security issue they were knocked down). I think that it was a wrong
> > decision, but if it is for corner case it is different than if it
> > becomes the rule.
> Ooo.. here's the "it's in the guidelines so do as I say" card. Annoying.
> Seriously. People. What the hell happened to simplicity and building a
> free OS for the world that just works? Is the state of Fedora really in
> such a bad shape that people think it's necessary have craptastic
> options like "what kernel would you like today?". Seriously, things like
> that is just masturbation and we in Fedora should be above that. I feel
> that people wanting this are treating Fedora like it's a playground for
> their Toy OS ideas. Playing classic cards like "RH vs. community" and
> "this or that committee says so" to justify their "ideas". It's
> seriously tiring. Is this what Fedora is becoming? Because if it is,
> I'll find something else to spend my time on.

Not sure how arguing over kernel builds is akin to wanking but really
this is a "My $DEVICE wont work under Linux" thread that should have
started as a bz entry and has gotten out of hand so don't get too

Christopher Brown


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