SELinux removed from desktop cd spin?

Valent Turkovic valent.turkovic at
Wed Jan 16 21:26:18 UTC 2008

On Jan 16, 2008 10:13 PM, Dave Airlie <airlied at> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 16:00 -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 08:57:56PM +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > I believe that SELinux is a great linux server security hardening tool
> > > but that has little use in desktop linux usage and it confuses
> > > ordinary desktop users.
> >
> > Desktop users are the people it is most important for.  If it is still confusing
> > people we need to fix the confusions. Perhaps you can explain more ?
> >
> >
> We made one big mistake with SELinux, selinuxalert or whatever it is
> called... we haven't learned from the MAC vs Windows ads... we now have
> an app that puts us squarely into the Windows lack of usefulness camp.
> "hey user this app is doing something bad. do you want to let it do
> it?"_t.

I wish it was that easy when I installed fluendo codes I couldn't play
my multimedia because SELInux blocked it (nobody tested it even that
fedora 8 advertised fluendo codec support as one of its new shiny
selinux troubleshoot tool it still to hard for ordinary desktop users.
I see the real benefit of SELinux troubleshoot tool for admins using
RHEL of fedora on their servers but on desktop I hardly see any point.

I will bet anybody who wants that Fedora live cd users will have more
trouble from using SElinux than benefit. Also that ubuntu, opensuse
and other distros that don't use SElinux won't be in trouble from some
0day exploit.


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