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Re: SELinux removed from desktop cd spin?

Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Jan 17, 2008 1:40 AM, Valent Turkovic <valent turkovic gmail com> wrote:
Warren Togami wrote:
Valent Turkovic wrote:
I believe that SELinux is a great linux server security hardening tool
but that has little use in desktop linux usage and it confuses
ordinary desktop users.
If it hasn't been discussed before I would like to propose that on
desktop cd spin SELinux is not installed by default, of course after
discussion and approval from you (fedora devels).


Also keep in mind that if SELinux break something on the desktop, THAT
is a bug.  Starting before F8 I personally began to use SELinux enabled
Well I repoted how SELinux "broke" a mayor Fedora 8 feature. Fluendo
codecs don't work even if you buy them. Sure it is SELinux job to
disable if software has bugs, but fluendo can't fix it because it is
intel compiler bug that they can fix... and so on and on...
This is just one example. I disabled SELiux for that bug and now I can
play my multimedia. Did my machine blow up? Dig I get OWNED? Am I now
asking hacked to come and get me? Are my files being read and deleted
randomly by somebody? Did my memory overflow? No, no, no, no.
People just want thing to JustWork and SELinux has the stoping power of
magnum .44. Sure it is a powefull tool but you are puting it in
inexperienced hands and doing more damage to fedora desktop that it
gives benefit to users.

Maybe you should have considered your real request when you wrote the
original email, since in the title you say 'remove' now you're saying

It should be *ATLEAST* disabled by default, and I see more and more reason for it not being on cd in the first place.

The space it occupies can be much more used and give much more functionality and you sacrifice just one "feature" that hardly anybody would miss, and ones that do can easily install it and enable it.


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