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Re: long term support release

Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 19:21 -0300, Horst H. von Brand wrote:
Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 freenet de> wrote:
On Sat, 2008-01-26 at 22:29 -0300, Horst H. von Brand wrote:
Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 freenet de> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 12:12 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
Horst H. von Brand wrote:

As a developer, it's not a major problem for _me_ having to cope with a
couple of issues here and there, but how do you expect "Aunt Tillie" to
cope with them?
Perhaps Fedora isn't for her then.
We are back to the point of questioning Fedora's target audience. As it
currently seem to me the target audience is "RH distro developers".
If so, how is that wrong?

Interests collide. "RH distro developers" interests are different from
"end users" (even when putting "Aunt Tillie" aside) and "upstreams" and

E.g. SELinux, NetworkManager, Pulseaudio are widely non-interesting to
me. If they worked transparently and smoothlessly, I would simply use
them and not waste a single word about them, like I do with many other
packages on a distro. Fact is, they don't work smoothless.

Refer to http://www.fedoraproject.org. The purpose of the project is clearly stated as a technology showcase; things like pulseaudio and selinux not working smoothly is pretty much a given when you combine 'new technology' and 'showcase' together. The same would be true of any industry/sector/sport/hobby/etc... to make something work smoothly you have to develop it beyond brand new technology. I don't see how interests are colliding there unless your interests are just different than what the project was set out to do in the first place. What you're asking for seems to be a platform for your application development which has the latest technology but which is developed beyond those barriers to adoption already...

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