PackageKit UI
Richard Hughes
hughsient at gmail.com
Thu Jun 12 14:06:25 UTC 2008
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 15:41 +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:22:17PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 15:09 +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:09:10PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > > > Comments/suggestions welcome,
> > >
> > > What are your use cases? Do you have any?
> >
> > Lots, see www.packagekit.org.
>
> I may be a tad dense, but I can't find them there.
In the developer docs IIRC.
> > > How do you handle the use case "I need something to type a letter,
> > > what can I install for that, what are my choices?".
> > > How do you handle the use case "I want my desktop to look cooler, what
> > > can I add?".
> > > How do you handle the use case "I need some free space, what can I
> > > remove?".
> >
> > We are prototyping something web-based for this sort of thing. We'll be
> > announcing stuff soon (if it works), I promise.
>
> Good. Then, what is your interface for, other than placating those
> who think they can't survive if they can't point and drool and
> consider that typing "yum install stuff" is way too complex?
It's somewhere in the middle of "What's a computer" to "iwconfig wlan0"
- competent users who just want to get something done.
> > > What information does the opened/closed box icon give, apart from "we
> > > have good graphists"?
> >
> > Open = installed, closed = not installed. The icons also change if you
> > select them to be added or removed.
>
> That's, errr, non-obvious. At all. I don't see how an icon can
> convey that kind of thing in an obvious way, to be honest. A
> word+color code combination would probably be better. And you
> probably need to have filters like "show installed", "show updates",
> etc directly clickable in the window instead of tucked in a menu.
> Color the appropriate words in the filter name with the same color
> than the indicator in the array and you're probably golden.
Colour is a bad indicator as many people don't "do" colour.
> > > Why do you present multiple versions of the same thing (compiz-gnome
> > > in your screenshot), especially as is they were different?
> >
> > Ahh, it shows there is an update available. Maybe we need to expose this
> > clearer.
>
> Ohhhh yes you do.
There was talk on the mailing list on how we parametrize these better so
we can show better icons in the UI. It petered out a few weeks ago, feel
free to jump on the mailing list and help out. Thanks!
Richard.
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