Fedora Freedom and linux-libre
jeff
moe at blagblagblag.org
Mon Jun 16 10:27:01 UTC 2008
Hans de Goede wrote:
> jeff wrote:
>> We're talking about
>>
>>
>>
>> * * * SOFTWARE THE FEDORA PROJECT IS ---> DISTRIBUTING <--- * * *
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>
> That is one vision, another vision is we are talking about a bunch of bits,
> which are part of the hardware.
It's software. In the case of tg3.c there is software sitting on someone's hard
drive, they edit that, run it through a compiler, and spit out non-free
binaries which Fedora distributes. Just because it runs on hardware doesn't
make it hardware.
I can't believe you're actually arguing the files in foo-firmware.src.rpm are
*HARDWARE*. What a crock. Fedora ships hardware thru the internet! A triumph!
You certainly (or very much most likely) didn't get them from the hardware
either--you probably got them via ftp.
> In some cases these bits which are part
> of the hardware happen to be stored in a non-volatile storage on the
> hardware and put on a non-volatile medium which is not physically part
> of the hardware, in these cases the operating system needs to get this
> bits from the non-volatile medium and put them in the volatile medium in
> the hardware before it can use the hardware. That doesn't make these
> bits any more or less part of the hardware as when they were in a rom.
Wow. I guess doublethinking requires such convoluted logic. Dude, if I can
download it via FTP it isn't hardware. Get real.
> So what you call software I call part of the hardware, see word game again.
Ya, it's a word game for you apparently, and you are *clearly* on the bullshit
side of the word game by calling what is software hardware. Since when is
fedora a hardware company, then? pfft. Wouldn't they have to go thru a whole
different regulatory scheme to distribute this "hardware".
-Jeff
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