default partition scheme without /home - why ?

Valent Turkovic valent.turkovic at gmail.com
Mon Mar 10 20:49:43 UTC 2008


2008/3/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>:
>
> On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 15:56 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  > 2008/3/10 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>:
>  > > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 14:19 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  > >  > 2008/3/10 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>:
>  > >  > > On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 13:34 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  > >  > >  > Is that on purpose and if it why?
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >  Guessing how much space you'll need in your non /home partitions over
>  > >  > >  time is difficult.  Only you know how your install will be used.  That's
>  > >  > >  why the installer defaults to the easiest thing to guess;  How much boot
>  > >  > >  space you'll need, and how much swap space.  However since you know how
>  > >  > >  your install is going to be used, you are best to make those estimations
>  > >  > >  and setup your /home as you want it.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >  --
>  > >  > >  Jesse Keating
>  > >  > >  Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Fedora Live CD target audience are desktop users, right? I as a
>  > >  > desktop user haven't seen any need for / partiton over 8-10 GB.
>  > >  > Servers, and other fedora usages may need some other partition schemes
>  > >  > but a default home user has huge benefits from a dedicated /home
>  > >  > partition.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > It is probable that new users aren't aware that /home partition as a
>  > >  > dedicated partition has advantages and it would be best if anaconda
>  > >  > makes the "smart" partition scheme in which /home is a separate
>  > >  > partition in LVM volume, or a logical partition. Separate home has
>  > >  > lots of advantages that you are aware of, so why not just change the
>  > >  > partition scheme to take advantage of that?
>  > >
>  > >  Those users could read the Installation Guide, which talks about this
>  > >  exact situation and how to set up partitions that make sense.  I don't
>  > >  think it's unreasonable to expect that new users who are going to
>  > >  install should read the document that tells them how to do it.  There's
>  > >  not a lot we can do for people who won't read.
>  >
>  > Where on the Live CD can I see the Installation Guide?
>
>  Putting the IG on the Live Image isn't a good answer.  Carrying all the
>  languages we'd need to make that a good solution would knock other stuff
>  off the already cramped space.  However, we should link to the IG from
>  the site where the Live Image is downloaded.  People can download a copy
>  to read offsite, or read it off the Web.  I've already made a note on my
>  draft for the new download workflow, at
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts/NewGetFedora .  And of
>  course, whether we link or provide it directly probably doesn't impact
>  whether people actually *read* it.
>
>
>
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IG is a monster to read :)
Has there been a initiative to make "guick install guide" or something
like that?

Valent

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