default partition scheme without /home - why ?

[Valent Turkovic]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Chris Snook wrote:
>> Valent Turkovic wrote:
>>> 2008/3/10 Jesse Keating <jkeating at redhat.com>:
>>>> On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 13:34 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>>>>  > Is that on purpose and if it why?
>>>>
>>>>  Guessing how much space you'll need in your non /home partitions over
>>>>  time is difficult.  Only you know how your install will be used.  
>>>> That's
>>>>  why the installer defaults to the easiest thing to guess;  How much 
>>>> boot
>>>>  space you'll need, and how much swap space.  However since you know 
>>>> how
>>>>  your install is going to be used, you are best to make those 
>>>> estimations
>>>>  and setup your /home as you want it.
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>>  Jesse Keating
>>>>  Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
>>>
>>> Fedora Live CD target audience are desktop users, right? I as a
>>> desktop user haven't seen any need for / partiton over 8-10 GB.
>>> Servers, and other fedora usages may need some other partition schemes
>>> but a default home user has huge benefits from a dedicated /home
>>> partition.
>>
>> My ogg/mp3 collection is over 20 GB.  I generally use a 100 GB /home 
>> for my multiboot workstation boxes.  For my test systems, I often 
>> carve out root LVs that are just a few GB and use that for 
>> everything.  There's no magic strategy that works for everyone, and 
>> putting everything on / allows users to take full advantage of their 
>> disk space without having to know how everything is carved up underneath.
>>
>>> It is probable that new users aren't aware that /home partition as a
>>> dedicated partition has advantages and it would be best if anaconda
>>> makes the "smart" partition scheme in which /home is a separate
>>> partition in LVM volume, or a logical partition. Separate home has
>>> lots of advantages that you are aware of, so why not just change the
>>> partition scheme to take advantage of that?
>>
>> Users who don't understand the concept of separate /home partitions 
>> are not going to be able to take advantage of these benefits.  For 
>> them, creating a separate /home is just unneeded complexity, and it's 
>> impossible for us to universally get right.
>>
>> If you know what you're doing, override the defaults.  That's why we 
>> have those options in the installer.
>>
>> If you can come up with a formula that properly handles anything from 
>> 2 GB (You can buy a brand-new EeePC Surf with this) to 1 TB, and 
>> correctly guesses how many OSes the user plans to multi-boot or 
>> virtualize, I'd be glad to go with that, but I can pretty much 
>> guarantee that it will piss off more people than the current default 
>> behavior, which cannot possibly be wrong, even if it's not always ideal.
>>
>> -- Chris
>>
> 
> Hi Chris,
> have you read some other branches from this thread?
> There are some great ideas from a couple of people that would work in 
> solving much more that breaking stuff, and would be more time right that 
> wrong.
> 
> Please re-read the whole thread and then lets continue this discussion 
> because I don't see that me copy/pasting responses that others have 
> already have given is the right way to continue this discussion.
> 
> Cheers,
> Valent.

I now see that you have read and posted to some other branches, and also 
have given some great ideas yourself... that got me confused even more 
about this your last post.

Valent.