F8 kernel-2.6.24.3-12.fc8

[Jarod Wilson]

On Friday 07 March 2008 12:28:17 pm David Nielsen wrote:
> 2008/3/7, Jarod Wilson <jwilson at redhat.com>:
> > On Friday 07 March 2008 10:51:25 am Benjamin Kreuter wrote:
> > > On Thursday 06 March 2008 19:29:23 Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> > > > Sorry, we had to release with known bugs. A new kernel will be in
> > > > updates-testing very shortly.
> > >
> > > Why did you have to release with known bugs?  Why not just wait until
> >
> > the
> >
> > > bugs are fixed?  The last three kernel updates broke suspend for me...
> >
> > Uh... If we waited until all the known bugs were fixed, we'd never
> > release *any* kernel... :)
> >
> > Despite this kernel making my own iwl4965 unusable, I was fully in favor
> > of
> > releasing it. In theory, we fixed more problems than we caused, and
> > you're always welcome to keep running the prior kernel. (I'm actually
> > running a slightly modified 2.6.24.2-7.fc8 now).
>
> I don't think anyone expects perfection

Yeah, I know, that was sorta tongue-in-cheek. :)

> but when breakage goes so far as 
> to encourage users to petition against an update being marked stable we
> might want to reconsider deploying. Not doing so reflects poorly on Fedora
> as a project to users in that our update policy looks dangerous to them and
> discourages testers from reporting problems since their experience will be
> that they are being ignored.

I suppose there would be that. But we're also supposed to be pretty 
leading-edge, and we've been stuck on 2.6.23 for a while... Fun balancing act 
sometimes...

I took those of us with problems to be a vocal minority in this case. For the 
vast majority of people, that kernel works great, fixes issues with prior 
kernels, etc., etc.

-- 
Jarod Wilson
jwilson at redhat.com