FeaturePresto won't make beta freeze
Valent Turkovic
valent.turkovic at gmail.com
Mon Mar 17 14:47:44 UTC 2008
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:23 AM, dexter <dex.mbox at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Well its a real sad state of affairs that the fedora decision makers can't see
> > the value in reducing everyones network footprint by default. I guess its
> > just not sexy enuff.
>
>
> Speaking as a Board member.... presto is one of a multitude of things
> that I would absolute love to find a way to help make happen faster.
> But you have to understand that I don't exactly have resources at my
> disposal that I can assign to the task of doing the heavy lifting to
> get presto into place.. or anything for that matter. Here's the hard
> reality... one(if not the biggest) of the limiting factor for
> everything the Fedora community is attempting to achieve is skilled
> manpower. And since at the Board level I've no way to 'hire'
> day-laborers to help get things done when they run into a roadblock.
> We have to be more creative in how we generate manpower... the right
> manpower. I have some ideas on that, but I'm not sure all of them
> will work. But I'm trying to get my ducks in a row to attempt some of
> them after the F9 release.
>
> It's unfortunate that Jonathan wasn't able to take presto all the way
> to an integrated feature.
> But as a project we have to expect this to happen and we need to start
> preparing for it. Now that he's admited his limitations, its up to
> the rest of the Fedora community to step in and take it the rest of
> the way. Every single person who invests their time and their talents
> to Fedora is a decision maker. We all decide what we work on as
> individuals. If we as a community want to see presto become
> integrated, then we as a community need to be willing to step up and
> lend a helping hand.
>
> So here's the challenge. I need people who are willing to make a
> larger commitment to Fedora as part of wanting to see presto happen. I
> need those people to step up and volunteer to some sort of
> infrastructure apprenticeship. I've no idea what that means exactly
> at the moment, so it will be a sort of experiment. But I do know that
> I want candidates to step forward, and I'll be talking to
> infrastructure about selecting one or two people from that group to
> mentor.
>
> I want this to be a somewhat competitive process. The goal here isn't
> to shove 20 people at infrastructure and bog down that group's work.
> The goal here is to make an investment in one or two people that I
> feel could make a larger impact inside Fedora if they were given a
> modest amount of mentoring in a new area.
>
> There are a lot of ideas floating around in terms of things to
> integrate into our build system or our website offerings. We need to
> find a way to build up the available manpower inside infrastructure to
> integrate those items as each idea matures.
>
> -jef
I have posted emails on opensuse mailing lists few weeks ago asking
their deltarpm devels it they can help fedora project in some way with
presto and deltarpm.
Valent.
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