few ideas how to make fedora better as a desktop

[Andrew Farris]

Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 22:47 -0700, Andrew Farris wrote:
>> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 11:40 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>>> Whatever purpose someone thought the s- versions might have ever served
>>>> flies out the window when the the administrator and the only user are 
>>>> one and the same person who is just confused by sometimes having 
>>>> commands work and sometimes not.
>>> This proposal is in the same class of proposals proposing to abandon
>>> "user accounts" and/or to use "root only".
>> No it is not.  There are absolutely no security considerations *right now* for 
>> whether a normal user has /*/sbin in their path or not.
> 
> Correct, security is not the point. The point is *usability*
> 
> It's in the same lane as 
> "Who needs root, gid/uids when I am the only user on a system?

Perhaps in the same lane, but you're talking about a difference of miles down 
the road (and already driven over the cliff).  To even compare these two is 
silly IMO; one creates enormous security breach potential, the other has zero 
security impact.

>>   This has nothing 
>> whatsoever to do with access permission or authorization for actions those 
>> binaries may attempt to make.  Changing to root only definitely does.
> That's not my rationale.
> 
> IMO, this proposal is yet the n-th manifestation of Fedora going down
> the drain - Frankly speaking, to me this proposal is such kind of
> absurd, I can only turn away in disgust.

I can't possibly see why... although some people have felt that way about lots 
of usability improvements over the years.  What argument is there that its 
necessary to stick to the 'good old way' here?  The best I've seen in the thread 
is just increasing bash autocomplete clutter, which frankly, is grasping for 
something/anything to complain about.

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