Multilib Middle-Ground

Paul Howarth paul at city-fan.org
Thu May 1 09:14:07 UTC 2008


Andrew Farris wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Colin Walters <walters <at> verbum.org> writes:
>>> The right way to approach this I think is to target specific third
>>> party applications which we want to work out of the box.  Say for
>>> example, Flash and VMWare Workstation.  Surely there are others, but I
>>> think we can arrive at a reasonably sane set.  We then add these
>>> packages to the default install image.
>>
>> How about the empty set? We should only support properly-packaged 
>> RPMs, which will drag in these dependencies if they're installed (from 
>> a valid repository or using something like yum localinstall), if the 
>> proprietary applications don't want to provide them, why should we care?
>>
>> The KDE Live image is at the limit of CD size, every compat cruft 
>> package added is an application we have to remove to compensate for 
>> the size, why should we remove useful applications or go over the 
>> standard 700 MB CD size to accomodate proprietary crap which we can't 
>> ship and which isn't even packaged properly?
> 
> Gross exaggeration... 'default install image' doesn't have to mean Live 
> CDs. Also are you actually suggesting that it would be best for those 
> proprietary applications to ship their own libraries because Fedora 
> makes it difficult to get their applications to work on x86_64 boxes due 
> to the company being forced to figure out what i386 rpms they have to 
> explicitly require on those machines... in Fedora... and not in other 
> rpm based distros?  You've got to be kidding.

$ rpm -qp --requires VMware-server-1.0.5-80187.i386.rpm
/bin/sh

Does that look like a properly-package RPM to you? No soname deps 
whatsoever?

Paul.




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