changes at planet fedora

[Jon Stanley]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Mark <markg85 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/5/19 seth vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org>:
>> Hi all,
>>  I'm making some changes with how we build up the list of folks/rss
>> feeds for the fedora planet. We're making it more self-service and a bit
>> easier to maintain for the admin group (and specifically easier for me
>> to put up with). For all the people currently on the planet please
>> follow these instructions to make sure your feed stays on there:
>>
>> http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/docs/planet-addition.html
>>
>> These instructions will be added to the wiki after the wiki migration
>> happens next week.
>>
>> Let me know what problems you have, too.
>>
>> thanks,
>> -sv
>>
>
> To comment on the new rules you've made:

There are no new rules, just an administrative change to allow
self-service administration of the Planet.
>
>   1.  As a fedora contributor you have to have a Fedora Account
> System account, have signed the cla and be a member of at least one
> other group in FAS.
>
> I strongly disagree on this one!! A person that writes a lot about

I think the "one other group" was added, but this is due to the fact
that you don't get a fedorapeople.org account until you're a member of
one other group. The CLA has always been required.

> fedora and thus deserves to be on the planet list doesn't need to be
> registered (or wants to register) at fedora so that you people can say
> your community is growing (because that WILL happen when a high fedora
> person gets interviewed and gets asked about the community behind it
> whether you want it or not). I personally didn't register there yet
> because the registration system asks things of me that i don't want to
> supply or don't feel like i need to supply them thus won't register
> until it either changes or when i'm up to put the time in it to get it
> all done.

There's not too much time involved in getting a FAS acct these days.
You need probably an SSH key (in order to use the fedorapeople
services), and a click-through CLA.

>   2. Next, you need to login to your fedorapeople.org account. Use
> your ssh key you uploaded into the FAS to do this.
>
> don't quite get this one but is releated to the FAS which i disagreed
> so i disagree on this one as well..

This is where the configuration happens.  Your fedorapeople.org
account is a shell account that all Fedora contributors receive a
150MiB quota at.  So you have to login to that shell account and
create a file.
>
>   3. You need to create a .planet file in your homedir. The content
> of the file should be like this:
>
> Interesting.. you are asking things of the user to do (besides posting
> fedora stuff) so that they can be on the planet list.. i understand
> why you want it but again don't agree on this one. Why do you ask of a
> user to do this? if a user has a blog on some place where he doesn't
> have access to upload files (like blogspot and wordpress) then the
> user, which might have very good fedora articles, can't get on the
> planet.. I would drop this rule if i where you and put it in the
> fedora accounting system if a user needs to register there anyway..
> You probably look for the .planet file anyway and save it in a
> database.

The .planet file is in your home directory on fedorapeople.org, not on
your blog.  Anyone can make a file in their home directory on this
machine.  This has been done in order to decentralize administration
from Seth having to do everything, to allowing self-service (a great
thing IMO).  If your feed URL were to change, then you could update it
yourself rather than asking for it to be done.

> Don't get me wrong! i like the planet thing and look ther quite often
> but dislike the rules you've just put on them (not that i want to
> submit my blog).
> I would be surprised if this is gonna work! seems like you simply ask
> to much of a user for them to only have there blog indexed on some
> kind of a planet site. Also a person that hates fedora might get on
> the planet with this automated system.

That's not a huge issue, content would be subject to review anyway.
Feeds can be disabled if need be.