Xorg 1.5 missed the train?

Christopher Stone chris.stone at gmail.com
Tue May 20 22:54:52 UTC 2008


On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 15:10:28 -0700
> "Christopher Stone" <chris.stone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Christopher Stone
>> > <chris.stone at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Until nVidia gets their act together?? What the H.E. double hockey
>> >> sticks are you talking about?  nVidia can't do anything until xorg's
>> >> ABI is *stable*.  They cannot keep chasing a moving target.  If xorg
>> >> declared today that the ABI will be stable then perhaps nVidia can get
>> >> working on new drivers.  Perhaps xorg has already done this??
>> >
>> > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=107725
>> > 05-13-08, 12:48 AM
>> > "I got assurance from the release manager that the ABI won't be
>> > changing between now and the official xserver 1.5 release, so the ABI
>> > will be marked as supported in the next driver release so that
>> > -ignoreABI won't be required."
>>
>> Okay, this is good news.  I'll post on the nVidia forums to make sure
>> they know.  I still think it's a bit uncalled for to say nVidia should
>> get their act together when the ABI was only declared stable last
>> week.
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> And I don't see why you can't have two different xorg packages.  We
>> >> have other compat packages with gcc and libstdc++, etc...
>> >
>> > I think you are over-simplifying the complexity of what it would take
>> > to make such a scheme work for the "framework" that is X.  If you can
>> > do it, and make it work seemlessly, more power to you. But I have no
>> > doubt that it is wrong to make this sort of demand on ajax's time.
>> > We've seen compatibility issues in the past with regard to nvidia on
>> > release day. There is absolutely nothing new here.
>>
>> As I stated in my original post "just how hard can it be to provide
>> compatibility packages?"  From what I understand, you could just drop
>> in the F8 packages right into F9 and that's all that is required.
>> Then nVidia users could use the f8 version of xorg while everyone else
>> could use the f9 version.  Why is it not that simple?
>
> If it's that simple, you should be able to do it yourself.  The code is
> there.  Have at it.
>
> (HINT: It's not simple at all)


According to this thread it seems pretty simple actually:

http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=188645

If redhat wants to pay me $100k a year, I'll happily make xorg compat
rpms in about one day.  Thank you very much.




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