Xorg 1.5 missed the train?

Rodd Clarkson rodd at clarkson.id.au
Wed May 21 04:10:53 UTC 2008


On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 22:02 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:54:42 -0700
> "Christopher Stone" <chris.stone at gmail.com> wrote:
> > that an upgrade path for nVidia users could be provided without much
> > extra effort.
> 
> The nVidia thing comes up every release.  Eventually I'm sure nVidia
> will update their driver and then the upgrade path for users
> choosing to use that driver will be an option.  Waiting a few more weeks
> for that to happen is not the end of the world.

Go nag nvidia about this, not fedora.

nvidia sprout corporate nonsense about not supporting pre-release
software and stating that they can't (won't) develop the driver without
a stable ABI.

This begs two questions.

Firstly, how do you define release.  For example on Windows, is release
the day that that version of Windows is released?  It appears not.  So
to use this same set of values for Linux (or Fedora) seems nonsense.

Maybe release is when the ABI's are declared stable.  This brings me to
the second point.  The devel cycle for Fedora has a point in the roadmap
where the developers have to declare the ABI's stable so that developers
can rely on them for the next release.  This should have been more than
enough for nvidia.

The simple fact is that it's not ajax's fault that nvidia don't take
Linux users seriously.  And while it might be frustrating, you can do
two things.  1. Put up with these issues with nvidia support and accept
where the real blame lies. 2. Stop buying nvidia products until such
time as they take Linux support seriously.

As a laptop owner with a nvidia graphics driver, I won't be getting
another nvidia graphics card in any new machine from now on, until I see
an improvement in their approach to Linux.

Just remember, ajax has supplied support for all the drivers he can
(every open source driver), but he can't be expected to support closed
source drivers (that's nvidia's responsibility).


R.
-- 
"It's a fine line between denial and faith.
 It's much better on my side"




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