Proposal: Rolling Release

Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
Tue Nov 11 17:18:20 UTC 2008


Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> 
> I hate to bring logic to a troll fight, but lets try to be objective
> here.
> 
> If the problem is truly:
> 
> * Fedora does not provide non-free, legally encumbered applications out
> of the box

No, the problem is not that Fedora doesn't include those things in the 
box.  The problem is that Fedora does not admit that users need things 
that are not included in the box, does nothing to co-operate with others 
that would provide them, and by shipping a wildly moving target with no 
coordination, actively breaks everything others even attempt to do in 
this regard.

> Then, there is nothing that we can do to resolve this which does not:
> 
> * Compromise Fedora's position on only including Free Software
> * Break US law (and yes, this includes not committing contributory
> infringement)
> 
> These are the facts. Now, if you think you have a constructive
> suggestion on how to solve the problem I stated above which doesn't
> compromise Fedora's Free Software only position or break US law, speak
> now. Otherwise, please drop this point.

I fail to see how, for example, including a java-1.5.0-sun-compat 
package in the box, or maintaining a working relationship with the 
jpackage.org packagers would have compromised any sensible positions, 
yet it would have dramatically changed the user experience.

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   Les Mikesell
     lesmikesell at gmail.com




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