starting Fedora Server SIG

Chris Adams cmadams at
Thu Nov 13 21:09:03 UTC 2008

Once upon a time, Jeremy Katz <katzj at> said:
> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 17:13 +0100, Dan Horák wrote:
> > Chris Adams píše v Čt 13. 11. 2008 v 10:02 -0600:
> > > Once upon a time, Dan Williams <dcbw at> said:
> > > > You can certainly disable NetworkManager and use manual configuration of
> > > > your network devices.
> > > 
> > > For how long?  I thought I'd read that the plan was to use NM for
> > > everything and eliminate /etc/init.d/network.
> > 
> > We will keep/maintain /etc/init.d/network forever :-) They don't
> > conflict, so there is no reason to completely drop the old method.
> Sure there is.  Having multiple methods means more things that have to
> be tested, more things that have to be updated for system changes, etc.

That gets back to my previous question: why would I want one or more
daemons required for a static server configuration?  That is just more
things to break.  We already have udev, dbus, hald, and console-kit (I
have an F9 firewall where something starts console-kit; I don't know
what or why) for example, without any good docs about which can be
disabled and when; please don't add NM.

Chris Adams <cmadams at>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

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