starting Fedora Server SIG

Adam Tkac atkac at
Thu Nov 13 13:27:42 UTC 2008

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 07:50:41PM +0100, Dan Horák wrote:
> There were many discussions in the past few days and weeks about the
> orientation Fedora currently has. It is a fact that currently
> Fedora is primarily desktop oriented.
> We agree that Desktop is important part of the system, it is highly
> visible to the public and large number of Fedora users. But we also see
> a large number of Fedora and CentOS users and RHEL customers with very
> specific needs and demands. We can not omit the server fundamentals that
> later create a successful enterprise product and in our opinion a formal
> entity must exist to coordinate these efforts.
> That's why we started work on establishing the Fedora Server SIG. The
> draft is available at
> Any constructive ideas are welcome  :-)

We discussed LSB and plymouth so let's start discussion about NetworkManager.
That tool is used by anaconda in F10 and is installed by default. In one
case it is nice tool for desktop but it still can't satisfy server demands
and is generally unusable and annoying.

Crucial thing is static IPs which NM can't handle. Thus I think it
should not be part of core system. Many people says that servers will
be integrated with NM and after that they will dynamically react when
network interfaces go up or down. It will be nice feature but it is
simply to early to put NM to core system.

Btw could anyone explain me what is the reason why NM is installed by
default? (make sure I'm not talking about desktops)

Regards, Adam

Adam Tkac, Red Hat, Inc.

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