The Big ACL Opening

Lennart Poettering mzerqung at
Thu Oct 16 17:14:51 UTC 2008

On Wed, 15.10.08 15:18, Casey Dahlin (cdahlin at wrote:

> What will happen is all packages which are now set to be private,  
> accessible by their maintainers and a few specific individuals only,  
> will be opened up to all überpackager members. Members of überpackager  
> represent a filtered minority of CVS comitters, but membership is easy  
> to come by for anyone that asks.

Hmm, am I the only one who finds the choice of the term "überpackager"
a bit questionnable?

I am assuming this refers to Nietzsche's "Übermensch" which to start
with is not a particular sympathetic idea to many. What I find
particularly problematic however is that at least in Germany this term
more often than not implies some kind of connection to, uhh, certain
dark times about 60 years ago.

Prefixing things with "über-" seems to be popular in the english
speaking world these days. In the German language it is however not
common to build new words with that prefix -- and the aforementioned
connotation plays a role in that.

I don't think using smelly worlds like that one and forgetting about their
history would be good for a formalized workflow like ours in
Fedora. I mean, we are supposed to be democratic with all our
board elections and stuff. But, uh, using Nazi terminology is not a
good way to promote that.

Or, if we have "Überpackagers", maybe it's time to rename normal
packagers to "Unterpackagers"? That would fit awfully well into our
pursuit for world domination, wouldn't it?


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