[Fwd: Wikipidia - Goodbye Red Hat and Fedora]

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:33:41 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
>
>> My proposal was clear: start the project when somebody has volunteered
>> for each of the packages that are in @code and @base (and maybe other
>> comps groups, I don't remember exactly). And keep a page with the
>> packages maintained such as not to give wrong expectations.
>
> Be careful with a project based on promises. Somebody might volunteer to
> maintain a package, but leave the project already prior to the first
> important security-fix due to lack of time or because of more important
> obligations. Learn from Fedora Legacy's fate. Not enough commitment from
> the target group. Too much bureaucracy for the few people who prepared
> updates [= a slow review process in bugzilla even for small patches copied
> from RHEL, lack of trust, all contributors had to wait for reviews,
> bottle-necks in the build'n'release process]. With every week a security
> update had to wait somewhere in a review ticket, some more people
> (including contributors) left the target group.
>

Now that we are constructive talking.. how can we lower the
bureaucracy and build trust in an environment where its all based on
who knows who and relationships take a long time to build up (I mean
this for any project from the Linux kernel, etc.) And you are correct,
my attitude towards Ralph earlier stunk.



-- 
Stephen J Smoogen. -- BSD/GNU/Linux
How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed
in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice"