Reasons to preseve X on tty7

[Les Mikesell]

James Hubbard wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Pierre-Yves wrote:
>>> Les Mikesell wrote:
>>>> I don't quite understand the obsession with making boot time faster
>>>> anyway.  Machines should only boot when they have a new kernel to install.
>>>>  If they aren't needed all the time they should sleep or hibernate, waking
>>>> up with everything still running.
>>>>
>>> My problem here are your two last words *still running*...
>>> Maybe especially on my laptop.
>>>
>> Why is that a problem? I don't have a fedora-loaded laptop handy but ubuntu
>> seems to sleep and wake up OK.
> 
> I still have problems with sleep.  It will periodically hang.  There's
> an Nvidia chipset on the machine which is most of the problem.  Sleep
> isn't as reliable as it should be.  A co-worker moved to Apple because
> he got fed up with the sleep problems that he was having.
> 
> Under F9 when I resume from suspend it seems to take forever for it
> the graphical interface to come back.  After X is back is seems to
> take forever for the wireless connection to start.  It makes me wonder
> if I shouldn't  shutdown the machine and reboot everytime.
> 
> The above doesn't include those that have dual boot setups either.
> Boot times are important.

The one I tried was a windows dual-boot but set up to run the unbuntu 
partition under VMware as well (going the other way would have required 
relicensing windows on each switch from VM to native mode).   So it 
doesn't boot linux in native mode often, but it did seem to sleep and 
wake up only slightly slower than windows. It also has Nvidia video but 
I think it has the vendor drivers since it is easy under ubuntu. I've 
seen some problems mentioned with sleep using the nv driver. 
Reconnecting to wireless did seem slower than windows, but somewhat 
randomly and only by a few seconds.

Apple has had this right for years - you could close/open the old g4 
powerbooks and they'd be ready in seconds and you can just click 'sleep' 
on the others for the same effect.  It probably wastes a bit of power to 
keep the keyboard active to wake the machine up, but it is worth it to 
still have all your programs open where you left them almost instantly.

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   Les Mikesell
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