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[Andrew Overholt]

* Lillian Angel <langel at redhat.com> [2008-10-31 13:08]:
> Peter Lemenkov wrote:
>> So, since now I need to install netbeans-platform8 in order to be able
>> to compile helloworld.java? It looks for me like one more redunant BR.
>> Correct me if I wrong.
>
> Correct. The -devel package now includes visualvm, which depends on  
> netbeans-platform8. We can talk about moving this out to a separate  
> package, and adding it as a "Suggests" for the java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel  
> package. The netbeans-platform8 package adds about 6.0M (not including  
> the small packages it requires. ~1M in total: javahelp2 jna  
> jpackage-utils swing-layout).

So we're adding ~7 MB of requirements to a package that's ~41 MB.  It's
a tough trade-off:  we want ease of installation ("just install this one
package"), full functionality ("look, you also get visualvm!"), and a
small disk footprint.  I tend towards ease of installation but that's
'cause I live where disks and bandwidth are relatively cheap.

Does Sun release the -devel bits of the JDK without NetBeans?  Without
visualvm?  Do most users expect visualvm to be there if they have a JDK?

Andrew