FESCo Meeting Summary for 2008-10-22

Horst H. von Brand vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl
Sun Oct 26 15:16:36 UTC 2008


Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 02:04 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 07:11 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > On 23.10.2008 21:53, Brian Pepple wrote:
> > > > === Features ===
> > > > * FESCo rejected a proposal to revert the Sbin Sanity(1) feature.
> > > >       * For: kick_
> > > >       * Against: dwmw2, j-rod, bpepple, notting, dgilmore, nirik
> > > >       * Abstain: jwb
> > > >      1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SbinSanity
> > > 
> > > I think FESCo is doing a big mistake here.
> +1
> 
> > > So FWIW, I totally agree with what Ville said in
> > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg02180.html
> > 
> > If you're writing scripts and not explicitly calling out the binary
> > location, then it's not surprising if your scripts break later. I know
> > it's nice to always assume a particular PATH, but it's not good practice
> > any more than including or not including sbin in the PATH to begin with.
> > And people using tab-completion can get used to the new binary names.
> > 
> > FWIW, I think including sbin in the path is only about *10 years too
> > late*, everyone else is already laughing that Fedora didn't do this, so
> > really it doesn't need to wait for yet another 1.5 years to get done :)

> I disagree. Fedora not having gone this naive road is one detail why
> users are using Fedora.

Heartily agree. I've been using Unixy systems since 1984 or so, and /never/
found a valid reason for {,/usr}/sbin in PATH for "normal users".
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