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Re: Reasons to preseve X on tty7

On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 17:25 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Dax Kelson (dkelson gurulabs com) said: 
> > I would argue strongly that this change should not be made for the
> > following reasons (in no particular order):
> So, I'd like to take a different tack to this request. I don't want
> to be combative, but I'm genuinely curious.
> This change was documented as part of the BetterStartup feature on the
> wiki page ever since existed. For those playing at home, that's roughly a
> year and a half. No one complained on this list.

It is only subtlety documented. The page talks about gdm taking over the
existing VT (amongst a sea of other text on the page). I missed the
implication when I first read the page (several months ago).

Nowhere does it say, "the side effect of this is X will be on tty1 not

> The feature was proposed to FESCo, and approved. No one complained
> on this list.
> The feature was implemented, and landed in rawhide. No one complained
> on this list.
> Will mentioned it on the list, as an adjunct to a release note (more
> or less). Everybody showed up.

I pulled down test 3 last week. I installed it yesterday and noticed the
change. This is the first rawhide I've been able to run, been too busy
with work. 

The timing of my email after Will's email is purely coincidence. My
email was being written anyway (then edited slightly after I saw Will's

> Are people not running rawhide and the test releases? Are they not
> looking at features as they are proposed and being involved in the
> process? Are they just sitting around waiting to be outraged?

See above. I'd like to run rawhide more often and be involved more,
currently it is difficult juggling life (a common problem I'm sure).

Dax Kelson
Guru Labs

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