Pulseaudio : lots of issues, how can I help?

Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
Mon Sep 15 12:26:30 UTC 2008

Le Lun 15 septembre 2008 14:04, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski a écrit :
> On Monday, 15 September 2008 at 13:39, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

>> The console has not evolved for a long time, while text requirements
>> have gone up. At this point a dumbed down text-only X session is
>> probably the only credible console future (or something that is not
>> X
>> at all but uses many libraries we associate with apps now).
> Irrelevant. I'm not saying the text mode console has to have the
> same usability as a full-screen terminal emulator running on X.

That may be irrelevant for you but that's not irrelevant for me both
as a console user and as someone who is an upstream maintainer for my
language of some of the bits the console use.

The separation between the X text stack and the console text stack is
not worth the maintenance burden. As evidenced by the fact the
maintenance part of the console text stack (even as
iso-functionnality) is not done properly anymore.

>> Non-X-console state is so bad nowadays I don't bother reporting bugs
>> on it. Even if they are fixed they always reappear the next Fedora
>> cycle. There is simply not enough console users and console
>> developpers to do anything but life support anymore.
> I don't know of any bugs that prevent me or my colleagues from using
> the text mode console.

Lucky you.

> That's not to say they don't exist, but I've
> never heard of any problems with the console either personally or from
> my colleagues.

So it works for you.
OSS works for some people too.

>> And that's ok. Do remember that X was defined at a time hardware was
>> vastly less powerful and core X is not wasteful at all. Compared to
>> how the rest of the system has bloated, X is definitely lean and
>> mean.
> That doesn't mean you have to disable the text mode console.

Do you volunteer for maintening all the stuff text mode console relies
on (fonts, layout definitions, etc)?

Nicolas Mailhot

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