My first DontZap use case while testing F11 beta

Adam Williamson awilliam at
Thu Apr 16 06:34:34 UTC 2009

On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 22:50 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam at> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 06:20 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >
> >> > Haha :) No, it's just that, as far as I can see, the impact on newbies
> >> > is that we tell them to reboot instead of doing ctrl-alt-backspace.
> >> You are presuming a newbie on a single seat/single user system.
> >>
> >> > Total cost: about twenty seconds (time to reboot vs. time to restart X).
> >> In a corporite environment, BIOS passwords or similar will prevent them
> >> from rebooting. A service tech/sys-admin will have to come by.
> >
> > In a corporate environment the network will be managed by a sysadmin who
> > will easily be able to change the default.
> I like your logic.  It's easy to change defaults, so therefore it
> makes sense to have bad defaults.

You're putting words in my mouth. I have no particular opinion either
way. All I've ever said is that it isn't a big deal. Put it this way -
the time lost by the possible drawbacks of *either* approach is
extremely unlikely *ever* to add up to the amount of time and energy
smart people have wasted in the seventeen thousand threads about this.
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
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