[RFC] disable OSS sound support

[King InuYasha]

Quite a few of the older Loki games use OSS

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Jon Masters <jonathan at jonmasters.org>wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 09:49 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:16 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > > Warren Togami wrote:
>
> > > > The problem with that is that they will continue saying "PulseAudio
> broke my
> > > > apps". If we just remove OSS sound support entirely, they won't have
> a
> > > > reason to blame PulseAudio anymore.
> > >
> > > I love that logic. And by love, I mean I really don't. PulseAudio is
> > > great, but there is a use case for OSS without PA in the loop still.
> >
> > Where is there still a need for it? Apps that are still using OSS had
> > about 8 years to switch to ALSA, why do you think they'd be doing it
> > now?
>
> I don't. That's the shocking thing about ABIs between kernel and
> userspace - we kind of guarantee them not to break randomly. I've got
> plenty of applications that don't use ALSA and never will (some of them
> from great Linux companies long since no longer with us) and yet it
> would be nice if we didn't just stop them from working on a whim. I'd
> much prefer to replace OSS support with e.g. the CUSE solution in a
> future Fedora instead.
>
> But like I said, I don't /really/ care that much. This is kind of a
> "won't somebody please think of the children" response I suppose.
>
> > >  And
> > > I fail to see why breaking those apps is a win - if you're that
> worried,
> > > pop up a notification to alert the user that something else has grabbed
> > > the audio device away.
> >
> > Which apps? And please don't tell me "internal apps that I've never seen
> > actually running and that nobody told me about".
>
> Old Linux games, lots of commercial stuff.
>
> Jon.
>
>
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