Ready for new RPM version?

Toshio Kuratomi a.badger at gmail.com
Sat Feb 28 04:25:53 UTC 2009


Adam Williamson wrote:

> That's worth replying to, actually, because you're right - I may well
> have fudged the terms 'developer' and 'maintainer' at some point in this
> thread, and I really shouldn't have done, because as you point out it's
> an important distinction here. I'm mostly concerned with maintainers,
> not developers. If your work is principally on upstream code, then it's
> not really a big deal whether you run Rawhide or not, though obviously
> in the wider goal you form part of the group of users who it would be
> *nice to have* testing Rawhide. It's mostly people whose work is in
> maintaining the packages that make up Fedora that I think it would be a
> really good idea to have running Rawhide.
> 
> Sorry if that was confusing people. I forgot that the developer /
> maintainer distinction is an important one here and on this list.

It's also important to realize that in Fedora many of our packages are
maintained by developers (one anecdote which kind of illustrates this
happened a few weeks ago when behdad offered to let others maintain the
packages he is the maintainer of so he can concentrate on his upstream
work on them).  So when you talk about getting the X package maintainers
to run RawHide so they won't break stuff while letting the X developers
work on their upstream code on a stable base you've got to realize that
they're actually all upstream developers who happen to pull double duty
by making the Fedora packages.

This isn't the case for all packages and packagers but a lot of the
basic packages that, if they break people will think "raw hide is
broken", are this way.  kernel, xorg, gnome platform, etc.  So you'll
have to figure out if the people who aren't upstream developers form a
significant base that can work with your ideas or how to adapt your
ideas to the types of contributors that we have.

-Toshio

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