sound problems

[Rahul Sundaram]

Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:

> Rahul,
> 
> if my memory is not failing, some packages appeared first in ATrpms
> than if Fedora (livna/rpmfusion): xvidcap, xzgv, xv, etc. I am not 
> discussing
> if these packages are useful or not. The fedora version of xzgv was 
> never able
> to display the thumbnails correctly, for instance. Why? Because it has 
> to be compiled with
> gcc3.

Was there a bug report filed on this? Again, when problems are in a 
repository, working together to fix the problem is more of a benefit, 
compared to have alternative fixed versions in a place, where majority 
of end users won't benefit from it. If maintainers don't have time, 
step-in and become co-maintainers and fix the problems instead.

> But the only reason for the existence of a 3rd party repo is a 
> multimedia package.
> Almost all of them are based on ffmpeg, which is obtained from svn. 
> Therefore,
> it is very difficult to have compatible packages, since ffmpeg API 
> changes very often.

You just one single repository for patent encumbered multimedia and 
other things Fedora won't carry. You don't many many conflicting 
repositories for this.

Again, I understand the license issue,
> but it would be much more
> appropriate if Fedora did not supply it at all (I think a gstreamer 
> solution only would be preferable).
> But this is my opinion only.

Your opinion doesn't take into consideration why xine-lib is in the 
repository in the first place. Xine as a multimedia framework is a 
dependency on many many packages in the repository including KDE and 
Miro. Excluding xine-lib means, you have to exclude a whole lot of 
others from the repository as well. Try running repoquery on xine-lib 
for a entire list.

Besides, the xine-lib package in Fedora is carefully coordinated, often 
by the same maintainer to work with a single third party repository. 
Others when they have conflicting packages, create problems for end 
users which is reflected in the current discussions.

> The only thing I cannot put up with is discrimination. For several years 
> I have seen
> some people, in Fedora lists, execrating Axel. However, the thing came 
> to a point
> that I can not stand anymore. When the subject changes from technical to 
> personal,
> there is nothing else to be said.
> 
> This type of behavior, when tolerated,  works as "low (level) pass 
> filter", and implies,
>  by omission, in a consent of the community.

You would note that, many people including myself did oppose personal 
attacks and will continue to do so. Generalizations are not appropriate.

Rahul