F10 and no root login - impossible to maintain systems!

Casey Dahlin cdahlin at redhat.com
Thu Jan 22 02:59:16 UTC 2009


Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2009/01/21 21:12 (GMT-0500) Casey Dahlin composed:
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>> Felix Miata wrote:
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>>> On 2009/01/21 20:55 (GMT-0500) Casey Dahlin composed:
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>>>>> ...Even then, with F10 using a 0 second 
>>>>> wait at the grub prompt, it's almost impossible to catch grub in time to 
>>>>> specify the runlevel or init=/bin/sh.
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>>>> Ctrl+Alt+F2
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>>> Not much help when system is configured to start X automatically, and X
>>> proceeds to lock up the whole system because of an Intel video chip's broken
>>> driver.
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>> And how does allowing graphical root login fix that?
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> It doesn't. It's the reason why nothing graphical should happen before
> everything else that graphical requires is known to be functioning, while
> typically fixing the broke stuff requires root power.
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> Graphical boot is obfuscatory nonsense. I just put W2K on an old puter a few
> days ago. Linux boots right up, but W2K takes 5 minutes to reach the login
> window. The graphical blanket makes it impossible to see what is taking so
> bloody long. I know there's a startup option to avoid the graphical doz
> curtain, but that should be the default, not a hidden option. Same for Linux:
> Graphical should be a selected option for those who want it, not the default.
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Defaults exist for people who aren't smart enough to change them.

And graphical boot will go away when Fedora boots in 5 seconds (which it 
may do soon).

--CJD




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