Lack of update information
Jesse Keating
jkeating at redhat.com
Tue Jan 27 00:07:45 UTC 2009
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 18:05 -0600, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>
> Aside from upstream (hopefully) not being a mess, there is a difference
> between "this seems to work" and "what justification, besides that
> upstream has fixed bugs and added features, can I give to push this update"?
>
> If a package seems to be non-broken and fixes bugs, that's good enough
> for me to update. (Of course, I'm also not in a limited-bandwidth
> situation, but...) Just because I haven't been bitten by a particular
> bug /yet/ doesn't make updating useless; maybe it saves me from being
> bit tomorrow.
>
> Also, notice I didn't actually object to asking for better "what's
> changed" information. I objected to putting bureaucracy in the way of
> what Fedora currently is; a distro that tends to closely track upstream.
>
> > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 17:29 -0600, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> >> Should we not release any updates without a Fedora bug being filed
> >> asking to upgrade to the latest upstream?
> >
> > That's actually not unreasonable. The update process should be user
> > driven, as in a user needs or wants something specific from the new
> > upstream code, we don't just install a bot to throw whatever falls out
> > of upstream directly at our users whether they want/need it or not.
>
> ...except now I have to run around opening a ticket every time KDE bumps
> its requirement on CMake version, or libical version, or...
But Fedora /releases/ aren't your personal rawhide. We're providing
releases that are supposed to stay somewhat stable, not to just be a
dumping ground for whatever upstream chooses to drop the day before. We
have a developmental stream for that, and it makes releases fairly
often. I just don't understand why we want to treat our /release/
branches as if they were just another rawhide.
--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
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