F11: xorg decision to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

Gerry Reno greno at verizon.net
Sat Mar 28 15:24:17 UTC 2009


Dan Nicholson wrote:
> 2009/3/28 Gerry Reno <greno at verizon.net>:
>   
>> Dan Nicholson wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Arthur Pemberton <pemboa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> [2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-September/038786.html
>>
>>
>> The poll was meaningless; that thread just captures people's
>> sentiments. When the patch was committed, it was because the X
>> developers had been talking about it for a long time as being the
>> right thing to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> The X developers had been talking about without ANY community input.  That
>> makes for very bad decisions.  They didn't even realize that people expect
>> the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to be available to them as it has for decades.  What
>> is left unsaid is that there a lot of emacs users in Xorg.  Despite the fact
>> that they sign as "a vim user",  they're all vim users but mostly emacs
>> users,  and that's not the same as signing "not an emacs user".
>>     
>
> Please stop with the conspiracy theory. This has nothing to do with
> emacs. It has everything to do with people accidentally killing their
> X session. I have no idea where you've gotten the idea that this was
> done for emacs users. Read Daniel's reply to you again.
>
> --
> Dan
>
>   
This is not a conspiracy theory.  If you've ever used emacs you know 
that they have a number of Ctrl-Alt-XXXXX sequences that are very close 
to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.  And emacs users have whined about everything 
Ctrl-Alt such as Ctrl-Alt-Del, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, etc. 

In thirty years of administering and managing *nix systems inside 
companies that have tens of thousands of employees, I have never had a 
user come to me and complain that they were having trouble because they 
kept killing their X server with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.   Daniel rammed 
this change into Xorg without ANY community input.  And further there is 
no statisically significant number of cases where people are killing 
their X server accidentally.  The only user community that has ever had 
this problem is the Emacs community because of their similar keystroke 
combinations to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.


Regards,
Gerry

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