F11: xorg decision to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

Yaakov Nemoy loupgaroublond at gmail.com
Sat Mar 28 17:24:25 UTC 2009


2009/3/27 Gerry Reno <greno at verizon.net>:
> Adam Miller wrote:
>
> This change to default behavior of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is an example of a
> tiny minority of Emacs users lobbying xorg for a change that will affect a
> huge number of community and commercial >users including datacenters and
> their sys admins. This change needs to be reversed immediately.
> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is embedded now into many tools including all the
> virtualization tools. It is >part of the DNA of every sys admin. To change
> this behavior is just insanity.
>
> Regards,
> Gerry
>
>
> Please stop throwing around the "sys admins will freak out" card, I'm
> a sys admin and we do things correctly through provisioning using
> kickstarts. It will be maybe a 3 line edit to a script. It was an
> upstream choice, Fedora has historically remained compliant with
> upstream so I imagine if you would like a change to be made on this
> topic it would be most effective to discuss it with upstream.
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
> I intend to discuss it with upstream.  But this is a huge change to default
> behavior for X control that almost NO ONE knows about.  The default methods
> of controlling the X server have been around for decades and many users and
> sys admins automatically know what the default behavior is that can be
> counted on in almost all situations and therefore this constitutes a big
> change.  And big changes like this need to be advertised extensively instead
> of just quietly slipped in.  I was hoping that Fedora might take the lead on
> stopping this bad change.  And again, yes, I'll take this to upstream as
> well.

Solution, ask people to include it in the Release Notes, where it
belongs, and let sysadmins act appropriately.  This is how things are
done in Fedora.

-Yaakov




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