FESco meeting summary for 20090507

[Ralf Corsepius]

Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> On Saturday, 09 May 2009 at 19:24, Jon Stanley wrote:
>> FESCo meeting summary for 2009/05/08
>>
>> == Members Present ==
>>
>>  * Jon Stanley (jds2001)
>>  * Kevin Fenzi (nirik)
>>  * Dan Horak (sharkcz)
>>  * Josh Boyer (jwb)
>>  * Brian Pepple (bpepple)
>>  * Bill Nottingham (notting)
>>  * David Woodhouse (dwmw2)
>>  * Jarod Wilson (j-rod)
>>
>> == Members Absent ==
>>
>>  * Dennis Gilmore (dgilmore)
> [...]
>> == Maven upgrade ==
>>
>> Rel-eng brought a proposal during the open floor to allow the
>> inclusion of packages in a special tag (something like dist-f12-maven)
>> in preparation for the maven upgrade that had yet to be through a
>> formal package review.  These packages are not yet in a state suitable
>> for inclusion in Fedora, and the Java team would prefer to get them
>> functional prior to cleaning up the packaging. FESCo approved this
>> propsal, with the caveat that the packages have to go through a
>> mini-review prior to inclusiion in this tag and therefore being used
>> in buildroots.  This mini-review will be defined by FPC, and will
>> include things such as checking for lack of binaries, and legal
>> concerns.
> 
> As a packager and a member of the FPC, I think it is a very bad idea to let
> packages in without proper review.
+1

> I'd like to hear the very convincing
> arguments which I expect were presented directly to some FESCo members
> but were not included in the IRC meeting log for why this was allowed and
> why the packages in question (which ones, exactly?) couldn't go through
> the usual hoops like all new packages.
> I don't see why the Java team (who, exactly?) or anyone else should
> be allowed to import packages into Fedora CVS without proper review.
> 
> I also expect this will be brought up in similar cases in the future
> with the justification that "we did this before".
I don't see why these people can't use an external VCS/repository, like 
probably many developer groups do.

Ralf