182 pending F11 stable updates. WTF?

Seth Vidal skvidal at fedoraproject.org
Thu May 7 19:53:15 UTC 2009

On Thu, 7 May 2009, David Cantrell wrote:

> On 05/07/2009 09:50 AM, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>> Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> How is it we have 182 stable updates pending for F11 already? How have
>>> these seen any testing by a wider audience? Are we really just not
>>> bothering with updates-testing anymore? Do we not care about distro
>>> stability?
>>> I know that many of these are newpackages, but many aren't though.
>>> </frustrated>
>> My experience is that most commercial users do not bother with logging
>> into Bhodi or even know it exists.
>> Another problem is that EPEL doesn't /yet/ use bhodi, so it has a
>> different workflow -- meaning EPEL-testing doesn't really test anything,
>> it means "rolls every 30-40 days", and that's about it.
>> So testing has to happen manually, Fedora is the minority use case.
>> Having a way to vote/comment without FAS would probably be enormously
>> helpful in getting more users to use the system, once EPEL uses the same
>> system.
> Definitely.  Whenever I ask users to test an update and then comment in 
> bodhi, the latter never happens.  They test the update and 2 weeks later I 
> get a nag mail from bodhi about updates still sitting around.  I move them to 
> stable since I at least had the original reporter test it and verify it 
> worked.

I frequently have the same experience.


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