182 pending F11 stable updates. WTF?

[Seth Vidal]

On Thu, 7 May 2009, David Cantrell wrote:

> On 05/07/2009 09:50 AM, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>> Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> How is it we have 182 stable updates pending for F11 already? How have
>>> these seen any testing by a wider audience? Are we really just not
>>> bothering with updates-testing anymore? Do we not care about distro
>>> stability?
>>> 
>>> I know that many of these are newpackages, but many aren't though.
>>> </frustrated>
>>> 
>> 
>> My experience is that most commercial users do not bother with logging
>> into Bhodi or even know it exists.
>> 
>> Another problem is that EPEL doesn't /yet/ use bhodi, so it has a
>> different workflow -- meaning EPEL-testing doesn't really test anything,
>> it means "rolls every 30-40 days", and that's about it.
>> So testing has to happen manually, Fedora is the minority use case.
>> 
>> Having a way to vote/comment without FAS would probably be enormously
>> helpful in getting more users to use the system, once EPEL uses the same
>> system.
>
> Definitely.  Whenever I ask users to test an update and then comment in 
> bodhi, the latter never happens.  They test the update and 2 weeks later I 
> get a nag mail from bodhi about updates still sitting around.  I move them to 
> stable since I at least had the original reporter test it and verify it 
> worked.


I frequently have the same experience.

-sv