Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

[Terry Barnaby]

On 11/26/2009 03:11 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:04:43PM +0000, Terry Barnaby wrote:
>> On 11/26/2009 02:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>> On 11/26/2009 08:09 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have not entered any bugzilla numbers as yet. I spent days with F11 and
>>>> previous releases diagnosing reporting and attempting to fix bugs. No
>>>> graphics updates were ever made available for F11 and still Fedora cannot
>>>> run even Blender on most of my machines. At the moment I am not
>>>> convinced that
>>>> it is worth spending this time on F12. It seems likely no updates will
>>>> appear and in F13 the whole ball game may have changed anyway.
>>>
>>> Seems a bunch of incorrect assumptions considering that Fedora 11 did
>>> get many updates and I already see updates for Fedora 12 in
>>> updates-testing repository. Specific bug reports are definitely going to
>>> help.
>>>
>>> Rahul
>>>
>> Sorry, should have been more specific. On the graphics package front, there
>> have been no ATI or Intel X11 driver updates in F11 so far. Mesa was last
>> updated 14th of June. Not sure about DRM as that is in the kernel and may
>> have been updated with kernel updates.
>
> xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-9.fc11	ajax	2009-11-20 20:35:24
> xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-8.fc11	mjg59	2009-09-24 20:58:55
> xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.7.0-7.fc11	krh	2009-05-28 19:32:16
>
> xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.12.2-18.fc11	airlied	2009-06-29 02:40:01
>
> And from kernel changelogs:
> * Fri Sep 25 2009 Chuck Ebbert<cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.30.8-63
> - Disable the GEM graphics manager on i686 PAE kernels
>    (fixes modesetting on Intel graphics.)
>
> * Fri Aug 14 2009 Chuck Ebbert<cebbert at redhat.com>  2.6.30.5-28.rc2
> - Linux 2.6.30.5-rc2
> - Dropped drm-intel-tv-fix.patch, merged in -stable now.
>
>   Wed Aug 12 2009 Kyle McMartin<kyle at redhat.com>
> - DRM patch sync-up with F-11-2.6.29.y, ABI probably isn't right yet though...
>   - drm-modesetting-radeon.patch
>   - drm-nouveau.patch
>   - drm-no-gem-on-i8xx.patch
>   - drm-i915-resume-force-mode.patch
>   - drm-intel-big-hammer.patch
>   - drm-intel-gen3-fb-hack.patch
>   - drm-intel-hdmi-edid-fix.patch
>   - drm-modesetting-radeon-fixes.patch
>   - drm-radeon-new-pciids.patch
>   - drm-dont-frob-i2c.patch
>   - drm-intel-tv-fix.patch
>   - drm-radeon-cs-oops-fix.patch
>   - drm-pnp-add-resource-range-checker.patch
>   - drm-i915-enable-mchbar.patch
> - The rest were merged upstream.
>
>    Anyway, I understand you sentiment. I was bitten by Intel graphics bug (EQ overflowing)
> which wasn't fixed for all F11 life. Things are much better in F12 now.
> But still, without any bug number we have nothing to talk about.
>
Mind you the above xorg packages are not in F11 updates ...
I note that there is a package in fedora-testing for xorg-x11-drv-intel but
I can't see anything for xorg-x11-drv-ati is this somewhere else ?
For me F12 seems worse than F11, so far on this aspect. I'm sure others mileage 
will vary in the same manner as the number of different graphics boards :)

As you obviously know tracking down and reporting bugs like these do take a lot 
of time and effort, quite often more than actually fixing them. At the moment
with the frequency of Fedora releases and the lack of a push to testing and 
stability on this front I am not enthused, at the moment, with doing this and I 
suspect many others feel the same.

Cheers


Terry