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RE: [Fedora-directory-users] Question about ACI

> I think you cleared everything for me.  I did misunderstood the
concept of "ldap:///self";, and 
> I agree with you that deny rules should be avoided.
>ldap:///self refers to the owner of the entry which is the creator of
the entry.  Am I correct on this? 

No.  ldap:///self means the aci applies to the entry you bind to the
server as.  For example, if you create a rule on ou=serviceaccounts that
says ldap:///self can change the attribute "userpassword", any user
under ou=serviceaccounts can change their own password (i.e. if I bind
as uid=user1,ou=serviceaccounts, I can write to the userpassword
attribute of user1, and no one elses.  If I bind as user2, I can write
to user2's userpassword attribute, but no one elses).  Creator of the
entry has nothing to do with it.  Technically, "owner" is yet something
else (if an entry has an owner attribute, that typically will contain
dn's of "owners" of the entry that can manipulate it in some way, but
that's not automatic - you'd have to create aci's to define that owner
relationship.  LDAP does not otherwise/by default have "owners" of
entries - Creator != Owner).

> After I specified the userdn as
cn=user1,ou=serviceaccounts,dc=test,dc=example,dc=com in my ACI,
> everything is now working as expected.  user1 doesn't have the ability
to write/add/replace the entry.
>Below is my new LDIF 
>dn: ou=serviceaccounts,dc=test,dc=example,dc=com
> changetype: add
> objectclass: top
> objectclass: organizationalunit
>dn: cn=user1,ou=serviceaccounts,dc=test,dc=example,dc=com
> changetype: add
> objectclass: top 
> objectclass: person
> sn: user1
> userPassword: testing123
> description: This is a test
> aci:
>  (targetattr = "*")
>  (version 3.0;
>  acl "user1";
>  allow (read, search, compare) 
>  ");)

By doing it this way, you are allowing user1 to see it's own account,
and nothing more - this aci does not allow other users to see user1, and
does not allow user1 to see other users.  Not unreasonable in and of
itself, but if you create many users where you want identical behavior,
it's very inefficient - you'll have way to many aci's in the directory
and maintenance is more difficult.  

If you want all users to have these same rights, a better way is to put
an aci like the following on the ou=serviceaccounts entry (and leave the
aci off the user):

  (targetattr = "*")
  (version 3.0;
  acl "user access";
  allow (read, search, compare) 

This will allow any user under that branch of the tree that binds to the
directory to read/search/compare  their own entry, in it's entirety,
without granting them access to anything else, nor granting any other
user to see their entry. (I'd still recommend that you restrict the
attribute list further, at least to targetattr!="userpassword" - there's
usually no need for users to see their password hash, and letting that
be transmitted over the network so freely is a bit of a security

(Note: if you already have aci's in your tree above this, including the
default aci's that come with the dir server, you may have other access
granted that is added to this).

 - Jeff

On Dec 10, 2007 12:48 PM, Clowser, Jeff (Contractor) <
jeff_clowser fanniemae com <mailto:jeff_clowser fanniemae com> > wrote:

	Couple things here.  First, avoid deny rules if at all possible
- deny rules always take precedence, so you can *never* override a deny
rule with something to allow access that has been denied elsewhere.
	Second, I think you are misunderstanding how ldap:///self works.
ldap:///self basically says "These permissions are granted on the
targetted entry if I bind to the server as that target entry".  In your
case, what your deny rule is saying is that if I bind as user1, I can't
read, write, or even search for the user1 entry, and as a deny rule, you
can't create any other rule to ever allow user1 to see his own entry. 
	So, you've created a rule that says anyone can read/write/search
to anything under ou=serviceaccounts, *except* user1 can't
read/write/search on his own entry.
	BTW, this seems like a really bad idea.  Forget about ACI's and
implementation for the moment - conceptually, what are you trying to do?
Who should be able to do what?  Are you saying you want anyone except
user1 to be able to have full access to anything under
	To define your access controls, you should really figure out who
you want to do what, then define aci's for each thing you want to allow,
such that they only *allow* just what you need, so you don't need any
kind of deny rules.
	If you want to, for example, allow any user to edit any part of
just their own record, put something like the following on the
ou=serviceaccounts entry:
	 (targetattr = "*")
	 (version 3.0;
	 acl "default aci for service accounts";
	 allow (all)
	This says that if I bind as a user under ou=serviceaccounts, I
have full read/write/search access to the entry I bound as (i.e. my
	However, I'd recommend making even that more restrictive (for
example, if all they really need to write to is their password, create
one aci to allow them to read/search all attributes except the
userpassword, and one to allow write to the userpassword with userdn of
ldap:///self), etc.  If you want all users to read other users entries,
create another aci that allows search/read access to ldap:///anyone (and
at least make it targetattr!="userpassword"), and so on..
	 - Jeff

	From: fedora-directory-users-bounces redhat com
[mailto:fedora-directory-users-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Chun Tat
David Chu
	Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:37 AM
	To: fedora-directory-users redhat com
	Subject: Re: [Fedora-directory-users] Question about ACI
	Hi guys,
	Please see below for my original question.
	I spend a little more time reading "Chapter 6 - Managing Access
Control" from the RH Administrator Guide.  At first, I thought it was my
placement of ACI that was wrong, but it seems like that's not the case
from what I read.  The book stated that "The precedence rule that
applies is that ACIs that deny access take precedence over ACIs that
allow access."  If my root allows everything and then my leaf denies
everything then I don't see why the add operation that I mentioned below
should work. 
	Let me clear up a little more in case there's any confusion.
The ou=serviceaccounts and cn=user1 entry is created by the
"cn=Directory Manager" user.  In my test, the root (ou=serviceaccounts),
I specified an ACI that allows all user to do anything.  In my leaf
(cn=user1), I specified an ACI that denies everything for user1 by
defining the bind rule as (ldap:///self). 
	When I logged in as user1, I'm able to add entry in the cn=user1
context.  I am not sure why because I thought that user1 shouldn't have
any privilege to do anything due to my specified ACI.
	Any idea?  Am I missing some obvious? 
	On Dec 7, 2007 6:28 PM, Chun Tat David Chu
<beyonddc storage gmail com> wrote:

		Hi guys,
		I am trying to create an organizational unit and an user
with ACI, but it looks like my ACI is not defined correctly.
		Below is my ldif.
		dn: ou=serviceaccounts,dc=test,dc=example,dc=com
		changetype: add 
		objectclass: top
		objectclass: organizationalunit
		 (targetattr = "*")
		 (version 3.0;
		 acl "default aci for service accounts";
		 allow (all)
		changetype: add
		objectclass: top
		objectclass: person
		sn: tscei.obs
		userPassword: testing123
		description: This is a test
		 (targetattr = "*")
		 (version 3.0;
		 acl "user1";
		 deny (all)
		I create an organizational unit that allows all users to
modify it, then I create user1 that denies everything. 
		I then use the below LDIF to perform a LDAP add
		changetype: add
		objectclass: top
		objectclass: room
		I use this ldapmodify command to perform the add
		ldapmodify -h hostname -p 1389 -D
"cn=user1,ou=serviceaccounts,dc=test,dc=example,dc=com" -w testing123 -f
my_test.ldif -x
		The add operation succeeded unexpectedly.  The result
that I'm looking for should be not enough privilege to perform add
		Anyone knows what's wrong with my ACI setup?

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